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155. Valentine "Val" Renner (Married Magdalina (Magdaline) (Margaretha) Wessa (#156) about 1734 (An LDS source says about 1730 in Frederick, Maryland) (Another LDS source says about 1743 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania).

Born: About 1710 in Germany (another source says 1714 in Frederick, Maryland) of Unknown Father (309) & Unknown Mother (310.)

Died: About 1780.

 

[His siblings, if any, are unknown].

 

Miscellaneous:   Valentine Renner emigrated from Mannhiem or Dannstadt, Germany in 1732, destination America. He and his wife had 11 children. Another Ancestry.com source says he immigrated on 19 September 1732 to Philadelphia from Germany on “Johnson Galley.” Another source says, “Valentin Renner emigrated from Dannstadt in 1732, destination America. Source: Eighteenth Century Register of Emigrants from Southwest Germany, edited by Professor Werner Hacker. Clossen Press, 1994.

As shown below, a Valentine Renner is included in a list of Palentines above 16 years of age that arrived in the Port of Philadelphia on board the Johnson Galley of London, David Crockatt, Commander, September 18th OS, 1732. Margaretta Renner is listed as a woman passenger above the age of 14 on the same ship. Margaretta may have been a variation of the spelling of his wife's name; but, Val did not marry Magdalina until after he arrived in Pennsylvania according to one source of LDS. Perhaps Margaretta was Val's mother, sister, or a previous wife. There is also a Katharina Renner on the list of "Women Under 14." She may have been one of Valentine's children, but her name doesn't appear on the list of siblings of Sophia Renner (#78) (reference Ancestory.com).

Incidentally, on that same ship there was a Johannes Albright, an Anna Albright, a Jacob Albright, a Lodawick Albright, a Barbara Albright, a Christiana Albright, and a Matelina Albright. These may be ancestors of Susan Snyder (#2) on her mother's side of the family. See Jacob Albrigh t(#197/217), Ludwick Albright (#221), Anna Maria Keller (#222), and Johannes Albright (#393/433/441) and Anna Barbara Gossauer (#394/434/442).

 

Below: The passenger list of the Johnson Galley of London for September 18, 1732. The top page lists "Men Above 16" and "Women Above 14." The bottom page continues the list of "Women Above 14" and then lists "Boys Under 16" and "Girls Under 14." This list appeared in the Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in the Colonial Records, Vol. III, p. 453.

(Note: Susan Snyder (#2) is very confused by 1) where Sophia Renner (#78) was born, 2) when she arrived in the United States, and 3) whether or not her parents were Valentine Renner and Margaretta. Sophia was born in 1740 (according to History of Frederick Baker, Jr., written by Reverend Raymond Carl Maxwell). Valentine Renner and (possibly) his wife are listed as arriving in America on the Johnson Galley in 1732. If all of this is true, Sophia would have been born in the United States... not in Germany or France as LDS sources state. According to The Genealogy of Peter Bossert-Bussard 1761-1802, compiled by Ruthella Bussard 1970-1974 and published by Jeanne Bussard Workshop, 101 West South Street, Frederick, Maryland 21701 in 1974), Sophia arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, in 1749, at the age of 9. If this is true, then the Valentine Renner and Magdalina Wessa listed on the passenger list are either not her parents or they had returned to Europe before Sophia's birth and then at 9 years of age, Sophia had sailed to America.)

 

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