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156. Magdalina (Magdaline) (Margaretha) Wessa (Married Valentine "Val" Renner (#155) (about 1734 (An LDS source says about 1730 in Frederick, Maryland) (Another LDS source says about 1743 in Bucks County, Pennsylvania).

Born: About 1712 (another ancestry.com source says about 1718) of Unknown Father (311) & Unknown Mother (312).

Died: ?

 

[Her siblings, if any, are unknown].

 

Miscellaneous: As shown below, a Margaretta Renner is included in a list of Palentines above 14 years of age that arrived in the Port of Philadelphia on board the Johnson Galley of London, David Crockatt, Commander, September 18th OS, 1732. Margaretta may have been a variation of Magdalina's name. Valentine Renner is also listed; but, according to one source of LDS, Val did not marry Magdalina until after he arrived in Pennsylvania. So... why do they have the same last name here? Perhaps Margaretta was Val's mother, sister, or a previous wife. There is also a Katharina Renner on the list of "Women Under 14." She may have been one of Valentine and Magdalina's children, but her name doesn't appear on the list of siblings of Sophia Renner (78). (This passenger list reference is from Ancestory.com).

 

Below: The passenger list of the Johnson Galley of London for September 18, 1732. The top page lists "Men Above 16" and "Women Above 14." The bottom page continues the list of "Women Above 14" and then lists "Boys Under 16" and "Girls Under 14." This list appeared in the Minutes of the Provincial Council, printed in the Colonial Records, Vol. III, p. 453.

According to one Ancestory.com source, Magdalina and her husband had 10 children: John Jacob, John, Henry, Magdaline, Sophia Renner (#78) , William, John Adam, Michael, and Maria Elizabeth. This information needs to be verified.

 

(Note: Susan Snyder (#2) is very confused by 1) where Sophia Renner (#78) was born, 2) when she arrived in the United States, and 3) whether or not her parents were Valentine Renner and Margaretta. Sophia was born in 1740 (according to History of Frederick Baker, Jr., written by Reverend Raymond Carl Maxwell). Valentine Renner and (possibly) his wife are listed as arriving in America on the Johnson Galley in 1732. If all of this is true, Sophia would have been born in the United States... not in Germany or France as LDS sources state. According to The Genealogy of Peter Bossert-Bussard 1761-1802, compiled by Ruthella Bussard 1970-1974 and published by Jeanne Bussard Workshop, 101 West South Street, Frederick, Maryland 21701 in 1974), Sophia arrived in Baltimore, Maryland, in 1749, at the age of 9. If this is true, then the Valentine Renner and Magdalina Wessa listed on the passenger list are either not her parents or they had returned to Europe before Sophia's birth and then at 9 years of age, Sophia had sailed to America.)

 

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